york. >> mark halperin thanks for staying with us, and my friend from cbs, thank you, and chuck todd who left a few minutes earlier, i thank all of you, it is fascinating. >> thank you, charlie. >> and the game continues, what would thomas jefferson say? i have a minute to vamp here. have a new biography, is this anything different than jefferson saw. >> he ran the first contested race in mean seven, 1776 and they had super pac ads this then. >> what did you learn new about jefferson. >> i learned he was a politician who understood the art of pragmatism. >> rose: that sound like barack obama. >> tall, cool, cerebral, very good politician, who doesn't really want to admit that he likes politics, but it is policy -- until we come up with a better system for working these things out, we have got to have skilled practitioners of the craft, and whatever we think about who won and who lost, we had two skilled practitioners,. >> rose: i thank all of you very much, it has been an exciting time and exciting debate. and we will be back on tuesday night for the next debate. have a nice evening.